Trump Allies Rudy Giuliani and Mark Meadows Sought Pardons in Connection With the Jan. 6 Attack, According to Testimony!
WASHINGTON – Cassidy Hutchinson, a former top aide to White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, gave shocking testimony to the House Jan. 6 committee on Tuesday. She said that Meadows and former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani both tried to get presidential pardons after the attack on the Capitol.
Meadows and Giuliani are the latest Republicans to ask for pardons because of what happened on January 6 and Trump’s attempts to change the election results.
Matt Gaetz of Florida, Mo Brooks of Alabama, Scott Perry of Pennsylvania, Andy Biggs of Arizona, and Louie Gohmert of Texas are all on the list. Hutchinson said in a deposition video that was released last week that those five members had asked for pardons.
Hutchinson’s testimony gave more information about what Meadows did in the days before and on January 6, 2021. Meadows told Hutchinson, “Things might get really, really bad on January 6.” Hutchinson said that was the first time she was afraid of what might happen on January 6, when Congress was going to count electoral votes.
Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., said that the night before the attack on the Capitol, Meadows was told to call Roger Stone and Michael Flynn “about what would happen the next day.”
Later, members of the far-right extremist group the Oath Keepers were seen with Stone on the Capitol. Flynn used his right under the Fifth Amendment not to incriminate himself when the committee asked him if the violence at the Capitol was justified and if he believed in a peaceful transfer of power.
On the day of the attack on the Capitol, Hutchinson told Meadows that some protesters at the January 6 rally had brought weapons. Meadows mostly ignored her while he stared at his phone. When fighting broke out at the Capitol, Hutchinson told Meadows. Meadows didn’t seem to care much about the news.
Hutchinson said, “It almost seemed like he didn’t care.” “I remember him saying, ‘All right,’ which meant something like, ‘How long is the president going to talk?'”
When Hutchinson told Meadows again that rioters were getting closer to the Capitol, he showed little regard while “sitting on his couch on his cellphone.”
As Trump’s chief of staff, Meadows got texts from Fox News host Laura Ingraham and Donald Trump Jr. begging him to get Trump to condemn the attacks. According to Hutchinson’s testimony, Trump was reluctant to do so.
Ben Williamson, a spokesman for Meadows, said that Hutchinson’s testimony was not true because “Meadows never asked for a pardon and never planned to.”
Giuliani not only supported Trump’s false claims of election fraud, but he was also a key part of Trump’s plan to overturn the election.
In a previous hearing, the committee said that Giuliani was a key part of Trump’s campaign to get states to change the results of the election and send a new slate of electors who would have voted for Trump.
In Arizona, Giuliani pushed Republican Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers to hold an official hearing to confirm that Trump won the state of Arizona. When asked over and over again for proof from Bowers, Giuliani said, “We have lots of theories, but we don’t have the proof.”
On Tuesday, Hutchinson testified about what Giuliani did in the days before the attack on the Capitol. He said that Giuliani knew that violence could happen at the Capitol.
In the days leading up to January 6, 2021, she heard the words “Oath Keeper” and “Proud Boys” in the White House “when Mr. Giuliani was there.”
Hutchinson also talked in court about a talk he had with Giuliani. She remembered that he asked her, “Are you excited for the 6th?” and told her, “It’s going to be a great day.” Hutchinson asked what was going to happen on January 6 because he was interested.
“We are going to the Capitol, “Giuliani replied. “It will be awesome. There will be the president. He will look like a strong man.”